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Britain, Spain, Argentina and Gibraltar & the Falkland Islands


In a previous post, http://wp.me/p1yiG3-98 I wrote about the ongoing dispute between Britain and Argentina over the Falkland Islands. I mentioned that Spain was on the side of their spanish speaking friends in Argentina. Spain is now attempting an 8,000 mile apart pincer movement over their dispute of the territory of Gibraltar. The Falklanders and Gibraltarians overwhelmingly want to stay British ( who wouldn’t? ). But yet again, we are in the position of having to fight to preserve the democratic right of self-determination of a population. In this case two.

Spain probably thinks we will not be able to protect both territories with our military. They are wrong. They have so many problems with their failed economy, failed eurozone participation and failed way of life that the government wants to turn the spotlight away from their failures and try to gain ‘patriotic’ support for taking Gibraltar.

Argentina’s fascist dictator Gaultieri tried this in the early 1980s over the Falkland Islands. He wanted to improve his chances of staying in power and tried the ‘patriotic’ approach by stealing the Falklands. It failed and cost the lives of many Argentinians as well as 255 British. Although the good that came out of this was Argentina’s attempt at democracy. Bearing in mind Spain has only been a democracy for a few decades, not much longer than Argentina and both were fascist countries, the Nazis moved in large numbers to Argentina after WWII ( President Kirschner is of German Descent ) and Spain often requested the Nazis bomb spanish areas where there was resistance against Spain’s own fascist government, although Spain was ‘officially’ neutral.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibraltar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputed_status_of_Gibraltar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Places_of_sovereignty_(Spain)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina

Isn’t it odd, Spain won’t give back Morocco its territories? What happened hundreds of years ago cannot be undone.

The people of the United States of America are not going to pack up their stuff and leave, returning the ancestral lands; leaving North America to the Native American Indians.

The people of Argentina are not going to return to Spain and Germany leaving the Argentinian lands to the indigenous population.

The Moors invaded Spain a thousand years ago. Are those people with Arabian genes going to pack up and go? Nope!

There has to be a cut off point and the people of the Falkland Islands and the people of Gibraltar have said their piece.

Spain, Argentina, grow up and move on. It is over.

I wish we were not in the European Union. The amount we put in is the rough amount Spain takes out. Why not just write them a cheque for £4,000,000,000 each year and get out of the union and do our own thing? Would we be worse off? I don’t think so.

I long for the day when us British pull out of the European Union and either set up our original union principles again of free trade across our borders with the rest of Europe ( which was what we actually voted for back in 1973 ) or we pull out completely and just make friends with the rest of the world. Why not set up proper trade with African countries, Middle and Far East? Even South and Central America?

The USA would prefer we stay in the European Union. I like americans, but America always looks after itself first, regardless of how friendly it is with other nations. It is in their interests for us to be kept within the bounds of the European Union. Business is business to them and friendship doesn’t count for much, I think.

British Falklands & Argentina


(Link to History of Falklands http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Falkland_Islands ).

As an Englishman, I may be seen as biased over the Falklands Islanders right to be British. However, There are a few things that need to be highlighted to the World in general. 

The Spanish speaking Argentinians accuse the British of Colonialism. Argentina was, as much of South and Central America had been, invaded and conquered to all intents and purposes by the Spanish. Portugal took Brazil, the rest of Europe including the Spanish invaded and conquered North America. We all know this, sorry to state the obvious.

Argentina’s Spanish speaking President Kirchner demands the Falkland Islands are returned to Argentina. History shows Argentina were not inhabiting the Islands, no evidence showed they had either. The British eventually took complete control over the islands from other European countries, including Spain. History shows every nation has conquered other nations in their past, or territories or taken uninhabited lands as their own. This was the way of the world hundreds of years ago and even more recent. Argentina also declared the territories of Chile, the Beagle Channel, were theirs – as well as Antarctica. Argentinians get around it seems. The United Nations believe that the people of a nation, island or territory have the right to self-determination. The Falkland Islanders wish to be British and not Argentinian. That is why we have a military presence there, to defend them. 

Spain, the original home of the ancestors of many Argentinians, demand the British give Gibraltar back to them. They have no right to it, but demand it is returned. Gibraltarians wish to be British, we are pleased to have them too. Opposite Gibraltar in North Africa are the territories of Spain which are disputed by Morocco. The Moroccans say Spain should return these territories to them, Morocco , as the rightful owner. Spain refuses. Link to dispute, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plazas_de_soberan%C3%ADa . Strangely Spain thinks the British should return Gibraltar to them, but under the same circumstances, Spain should not return their territories of Morocco back to Morocco. Spain also backs up the Spanish speaking Argentinians claim to the Falklands. 

I bring these issues up because there is a fundamental problem with the Spanish speaking world demanding territories, whether they have a real right to them or not. Let us say it is deemed that the Falkland Islands are the property of Argentina. Argentinians take the islands. The British have no right to be there and are repatriated to Britain. Under these circumstances, Spain will get Gibraltar back, the people being repatriated to Britain and then the Moroccans get their territories and the Spanish are repatriated to Spain. Can you see where I am going with this?

under this reasoning, all Europeans no longer have the right to be in USA, Canada, any South or Central American Country, Oceania, Africa,etc. If one territory is deemed the property of another country, then the people are legally obliged to leave if the ‘new owner’ wishes.

Other Spanish speaking Central and South American Countries are backing the Spanish speaking Argentinians over the Falkland Islands. Of course, most of these countries are run by powerful people, who look greedily at the possible oil reserves and other resources, that Argentina would let them in on of they helped them take control of these islands.

But, Argentina has no right to them, they will never be given these islands by Britain and sadly they are stupid enough to go to war with us over them, if they get other countries backing them, or if no one wants to help us. USA, take note. The legality of ownership will come down to the Indigenous population having the right of ownership. Get your passports ready. You will be returning to Europe.

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